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J.D. Hunter said:
I'm a LITTLE (emphasis on a LITTLE) on the fence with this one (with my feet swinging, about to jump off said fence).

A statewide doping program that said players could potentially profit or benefit from, absolutely. What about the players who don't agree with what's going on in Ukraine? Should they be held accountable? It seems like such a slippery slope to me.

I can understand not holding events there, absolutely. But condemning an entire sport for the actions of their leader? I don't know.
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Well maybe it is time to bring back the idea of defecting
 
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J.D. Hunter said:
Absolutely. Make a much more direct, public stance. I'm with it.
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If you are a Russian athlete who is opposed to Putin's politics and Russian doping systemic problem you have a clear choice... It is not an easy one, but it is a clear one.
 
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BigGayTennisFan90 said:
Please let's not go on about world affairs here, I know it's a forum etc but seriously I want to escape all that shit when I come here. I'm not being a wanker is iust a gentle request because the discussion could never end.
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Your profile photo is Novaxxx...
 
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s98 said:
The 'criticism' was so mild and vague you wouldn't even know he was talking about Ukraine. He just said he is 'for peace' everywhere.
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during a war with Ukraine- it's obvious, come on! Anything bolder may get his family poisoned by Putin thugs- it's bolder than any other Russian pro I've seen.
 
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dhmonarch89 said:
during a war with Ukraine- it's obvious, come on! Anything bolder may get his family poisoned by Putin thugs- it's bolder than any other Russian pro I've seen.
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Agree with your sentiment, but Rublev mentioned Ukraine and Pavlyuchenkova (because let's be real, the women are the ones more actively involved in real world issies) condemned Russia.
 
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Dippo said:
Agree with your sentiment, but Rublev mentioned Ukraine and Pavlyuchenkova (because let's be real, the women are the ones more actively involved in real world issies) condemned Russia.
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I stopped following women's tennis years ago- it's a mess, but good for Pavly- glad she made such a bold statement.
 
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aaronvasser123 said:
In what way are women more actively involved?
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WTA started off life politicised in order to fight for rights regarding equal pay. You generally tend to see them speak out quicker and with more support on a lot of issues; more recently BLM (Osaka's boycott of a match day caused a WTA boycott, then a tournament wide boycott), vaccinations, the Peng Shuai story. May not be as reported or as noticed by fans that tend to lean towards the way more popular men's side, but it's frequent and obvious that the women speak before the men and with less of an air of fearing consequences.
 
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Dippo said:
WTA started off life politicised in order to fight for rights regarding equal pay. You generally tend to see them speak out quicker and with more support on a lot of issues; more recently BLM (Osaka's boycott of a match day caused a WTA boycott, then a tournament wide boycott), vaccinations, the Peng Shuai story. May not be as reported or as noticed by fans that tend to lean towards the way more popular men's side, but it's frequent and obvious that the women speak before the men and with less of an air of fearing consequences.
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that and definitely gay rights- several out lesbians over the last 40 years since Martina and not one out gay man (not to mention the on court homophobia without ANY consequences) ... 1 retired guy came out, but hell- 5-6 retired NFL guys have come out.
 
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Dippo said:
WTA started off life politicised in order to fight for rights regarding equal pay. You generally tend to see them speak out quicker and with more support on a lot of issues; more recently BLM (Osaka's boycott of a match day caused a WTA boycott, then a tournament wide boycott), vaccinations, the Peng Shuai story. May not be as reported or as noticed by fans that tend to lean towards the way more popular men's side, but it's frequent and obvious that the women speak before the men and with less of an air of fearing consequences.
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Ah yes, I thought you meant women in general, but I would agree with you that in terms of tennis the women are definitely more involved.
 
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